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I returned home from Tokyo this morning to find my latest issue of American Photo waiting on me. On pages 15 and 18 is the work and interview of Jill Greenberg featured as the most controversial photo exhibition of the year. I agree with Thomas on this one (see Jill Greenberg is a Sick Woman Who Should Be Arrested and Charged With Child Abuse and More Thoughts on the Jill Greenberg Controversy). I remained silent on this topic UNTIL I read the article in American Photo -- the quotes attributed to Mrs. Greenberg were saddening to me, at the very least.

Here are the quotes by Mrs. Greenberg in the article I found to be disturbing, and why...

"Maybe getting kids to cry isn't the nicest thing to do, but I'm not causing anyone permanent psychological damage."

My wife is a child psychologist with a specialization in child development, and I have learned from her some of the most formative years of a childs life are between the ages of 1-6. Does Mrs. Greenberg have the expertise to know whether or not she is crossing a boundary with these children? Nothing in her official website bio indicates she does.

"Kid models aren't very expensive -- not as expensive as monkeys, for example."

It seems to me it boils down to maximizing profit for Mrs. Greenberg, regardless of the consequences or moral obligations she has to her subjects. I don't believe it's right to provoke animals in this manner, much less children, for the sake of making a buck. This dehumanizing of the children -- making them merely a commodity -- is sickening.

"Some would just cry for no reason -- my daughter did that; she didn't like standing on the apple box I used for a platform because it was a little wobbly."

Mrs. Greenberg, your child was not crying for no reason. She was crying because you put her in a position where she felt unsafe. This hit a particular nerve for me. We have professional pictures (by Karen Goforth) of our two children at six months old sitting on a turtle stool built by my grandfather. The stool is not wobbly -- it sits about three inches high, has a very wide base and therefore a low center of gravity.

Both children had learned to sit up unaided for 1-2 weeks before the pics were taken, so were naturally still a bit wobbly themselves at the time the pictures were taken. Because of this, I was mere inches away during the session, just out of camera range or within the periphery of the frame edges. The minute my children became the least bit distressed or started to sway a little bit I scooped them up and ended the session. Granted, my goals were very different from Mrs. Greenberg -- we wanted happy, smiling pictures.

I can't imagine intentionally making my child uncomfortable or unsafe to provoke them to tears. I'm baffled as to why Mrs. Greenberg as a mother would do so to her own children, much less those of friends or complete strangers.

"At the end of the day I was not in a good mood. I don't like making little kids cry."

Earlier in the article Mrs. Greenberg states she photographed 'around 35' children in groups of '12 or so for one day'. If she dislikes provoking children in this manner, why did she do it for approximately 3 days (35 children divided by 12 per day)...? The actions in this case seem to speak much louder than the words.

"The emotion you see is just so compelling, yet they're beautiful at the same time. That was one of the things that interested me about the project -- the strength and beauty of the images as images."

These images are not beautiful, nor do they depict any sort of beauty. To attribute any sort of beauty to these images is shameful in the least, and speaks volumes about the distorted perspective of the viewer.

"I also thought they made a kind of political statement about the current state of anxiety a lot of people are in about the future of the country. Sometimes I just feel like crying about the way things are going."

The pictures by Mrs. Greenberg might be indicative of psychological projection. I'm not a psychologist, but I remember enough from my undergraduate studies in psychology to recognize the behavior. There are many, many ways to constructively deal with a negative personal outlook of our culture, political or socioeconomic environment without involving children, or causing a negative impact to their lives. Talking with a friend or spouse is a good start, and much more healthier than imposing our unhappiness upon the precious little ones in our lives.

As a result of their feature of Mrs. Greenberg I'm canceling my subscription to American Photo. I hope in the future they will decline to feature children in their magazine in this manner. There are many, many other controversial photo exhibitions they could choose to highlight which do not resort to exploiting minors.

Categories: Photography | Comments [5] | # | Posted on Sunday, June 25, 2006 1:31:11 AM (GMT Standard Time, UTC+00:00)   
Monday, June 26, 2006 8:18:13 AM (GMT Standard Time, UTC+00:00)
Good work. If only more consumers voted with thier feet (and wallets), organisations might just become more focused on what exactly makes the customer tick.
Chris Adams
Thursday, June 29, 2006 1:52:41 PM (GMT Standard Time, UTC+00:00)
I'm split.
On one hand, you can't deny the beauty of these pictures, especially if you're touched by children's distress, you can't help but be moved by those photographs. They're not beautiful in a common way, but in their own way, they're beautiful cos they make a statement, they're a powerful depiction of a rather common human emotion. And on top of that, plastically, they're pretty slick, and that's coming from someone who finds Jill Greenberg's work boring.
On the other hand, you just can't do that. If that makes her sick, why does she do it if it's not for the simple fact that she wants to keep the buzz on her name, since her work ain't that special anymore, she's been bit many times and ended up having anybody's style.
So it's not even a question of ethics, you don't hurt people. Needless to say children.
The notable exception ef enjoying a child crying, is in movies, since those kids are conscious of what they're doing. They're part of it, even if the emotion is overwhelming them, they still know what's going on. So I guess it adds up to the fact that, for the sake of art, you need the subject's approval.
The second point is my objection.

You said this: "To attribute any sort of beauty to these images is shameful in the least, and speaks volumes about the distorted perspective of the viewer."

How can you say that nobody should find these pictures beautiful? I do, but you seen that I still wish they hadn't been made. Finding them beautiful or at least interresting doesn't make me a monster I think. The greatest exemple would be James Nachtwey's work. You said you agree with Thomas Hawk while he says a photographer may capture pain if he acts as a witness.
That's what James Nachtwey does.
Yet his pictures are beautiful, and that's what made his name, not just the plain fact that he was there when it did happen. And thank God his pictures, full of pain and distress are beautiful cos they reach their point, make us aware of situations we generally overlook (like the one in Tchetchnya). If his pictures were merely informative with no sense of tension, emotion, composition or light, then who would have noticed them?

http://www.jamesnachtwey.com/jn/images/JN0016RIN.jpg

See this particular image; I'm sure that he could have put his camera down, and spent a few minutes with the kid to comfort him, and maybe he did after, but if he had done it before would the picture had been made? and would the point had been made too?

I find this picture beautiful cos beauty isn't just a blossoming flower in the clear blue air. Beauty, art at its highest form is a testimony of our human condition, our loneliness down there, and the tragedy of our lives, wether it's in the fire and the fury or in the quiet deperation of our western lives (that's where Greenberg had a point). And thank God, Dostoevsky found pain beautiful. Of course, I'm sure you guessed that I'm not the one that would go out hunting for desperation just for the thrill of staring at it. It's a simple question of intellectual courage that everybody has, and you can't say that you do not "enjoy" drama when it makes you contemplate the most vital questions of your life.

Pain in Nachtwey's pictures makes you want to act, it makes the human core string in you vibrate. That's what I mean by "statement on the human condition". That's beautiful, it's a beautiful move of the human heart. Same thing with Greenberg's pictures: the colors are great, the light is great, the textures are fascinating, there's tension... and I want to reach out to those poor kids. What more could you ask for to find that beautiful? I guessed she named herself well: the manipulator. Still, she didn't act as a witness, but as a sadistic artist, self-centered and not brave enough to go find the truth instead of trying to recreate it (that is, lying).
And I'm not a monster ;)
AR
AR
Saturday, July 29, 2006 12:50:13 PM (GMT Standard Time, UTC+00:00)
For those of you interested in Jill Greenberg, I'm selling one of her Monkey Portraits on eBay. You can watch for yourself to see if any of this controversy has an impact on the value of her art.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Worried-from-Jill-Greenbergs-Monkey-Series_W0QQitemZ160013039742QQihZ006QQcategoryZ66465QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Rachel
Saturday, July 29, 2006 5:01:29 PM (GMT Standard Time, UTC+00:00)
Nice post, and I fully agree with you.
Best line, and most explanatory: "This dehumanizing of the children -- making them merely a commodity -- is sickening".

As to your question, "I'm baffled as to why Mrs. Greenberg as a mother would do so to her own children, much less those of friends or complete strangers."
My best guess: This woman has a personality disorder. The lack of empathy or guilt (i.e. unaware that she's done anything wrong at all) reflects the absence of a fully-formed conscience. As a result, she looks at other humans as objects to be used for whatever purposes she wishes, rather than humans deserving dignity. That she is not troubled by the distress from these kids (and worse, that she intended to cause this distress) is quite worrisome. The book "A Child Called IT" relates how the use of this sort of emotional tyranny can be very destructive. The Soviets and Chinese used such techniques on a huge and systematic scale, to similar political ends.

She should be condemned, as should her husband and the gallery. I'm glad you cancelled the subscription as well. It really bothers me how many people came out in her defense, however. I fear for our society when such obvious wrongdoing is not seen as such, or worse, lauded.
Kevin F
Tuesday, August 15, 2006 8:52:57 PM (GMT Standard Time, UTC+00:00)
I fully agree with every word you wrote and I think it's the best statement published since "Thomas Hawk" has started the discussion. I'm a german father (Jill Greenberg is condemned all over the world) and I tell you - if any photographer would ask me if he could make my children cry to take original pictures I would call the police. As a father I cannot understand what kind of "beauty" some misguided persons are able to see in these pictures of tormented toddlers. It's perverse. Many photographers say that the questionable pictures of Mrs. Greenberg have nothing do with art. They are right. It's politally motivated trash, high-polished mass-produced articles to dazzle some narrow-minded people.
bernhard stork
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